From COL:
Last week, when the huge demonstration dispersed after three days in Kfar Maimon, many were disappointed about not proceeding and breaking into Gush Katif by force. These felt that the demonstration failed since the crowd had not arrived at Gush Katif. This is an erroneous feeling says Rabbi Menachem Brod of Sichas Hashavua.
Brod claims that the success of the demonstration is not measured by its destination and ought not to be evaluated by whether the people had or had not arrived at the Kisufim barrier. The demonstration had succeeded particularly because of the fact that it was not violent and that it did not produce clashes between policemen, soldiers and the demonstrators. It succeeded since it voiced a powerful public protest which resonated not only throughout Israel but throughout the entire world.
Sounds like Rabbi Brod is trying to help people come to terms with the fact that the demos in Israel were not only not effeictve to stop the eviction but that they chickened out before they got to the finish line!
ReplyDeleteThe most important thing is that regardless of an individuals view, we must NEVER fight between ouselves. Through our unity we can acheive much more then we can ever imagine. Lets unite against a common goal. Then we can all together bring about the coming of Moshiach. Speedily In Our Days.
ReplyDeleteMr G , you comments are right.
ReplyDeleteWe need shalom amongst Am Yisroel.
Is there a Moshiach in our generation to lead us out of golus.
Will Moshiach be non chassidic as the
Alter Rebbe once told his chassidim.I believe this comment was stated in the Sefer Beis Rebbe and reprinted in 1897 Stanislav.
I love this photo too!!
ReplyDeleteIt can only happen in Israel !!
Someone should frame it and auction the photo !!
Jews are great people!!!
ReplyDeletethose poor tironim, i don't think they had a clue what they were in for!
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ReplyDeleteMr G, you said "Lets unite". Did you mean literally, in the school hall? When will someone get off their behind and organise another rally or a Kinus, like the one in Sydney?
ReplyDeleteOn 19th July they got about 770 people in Werdiger Hall. Can anyone top that figure before D-DAY on 15th Aug?
The above four comments were all written by ump.
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ReplyDeleteThere were 769 people!
A copy of an email sent around by Moshe Elkman written in Israel, CELEBRATING THE WIN. I believe If you keep Gush Katif you won- otherwise you lost!
ReplyDeleteBut I am concerned about a serious threatre unprecedent violence. I call on Moshe to condemn this threat and stop sending it around.
We have won!
Dror Vanunu – Gush Katif
We won, because you [Ariel Sharon] supposed that 30% of us would stay until the last deadline, and we were more optimistic and hoped that at least 60% of us wouldn't leave. Now, one month before the planned expulsion only a few families left and with the new arrivals 130% residents live at this moment in Gush Katif!
We won, because you conspired with our Arab enemies and chose not to retaliate against the launching of mortar shells and kassam rockets which you hoped would break our spirit, but we continued our everyday routine with amazing faith seeing the greatest miracles daily!
We won, because you thought we are as corrupt as you are and that you could offer us money so we would forsake our ideals, but we proved to all that the values of truth are leading us and we never knocked on the doors of the Expulsion Administration (for compensation).
We won, because you exclaimed: "Who needs Gaza? Gaza does not belong to the Land of Israel", but the thousands who held hands on the human chain understood that Gaza is part of our Biblical heritage and that Gush Katif is the gateway to Jerusalem.
We won, because you hoped to see us taking apart our hothouses and uprooting in tears, but hundreds of farmers among us are hoping and planting with joy.
We won, because you believed that our villages, streets and houses would turn into ghost towns, but we built, enlarged our houses, water our lawns, and continue investing, and we never saw such intense days as these days.
We won, despite the wide disinformation and biased perspective of the media, because we met "face to face" with thousands of households countrywide, creating a wide circle of friends around us.
We won, because you were so sure that the disengagement would be over so easily, but didn’t expect the country to become so ‘orange’.
We won, because you thought that brainwashing the soldiers would shut their hearts and that the IDF would become a tool of you and the corrupt thugs that surround you. Instead, the wave of refusals to obey orders is flushing the army ranks and proves that the simple soldier is wiser than his commander
You might finally succeed in expelling us from our homes and turning us into refugees, though your threats and provocations have failed, but it will be by ^^ unprecedented violence ^^.
It won’t help because WE WON.
The spirit of Emunah, the Mesirut Nefesh (determination) and the truth of Gush Katif will forever overcome the soulless bulldozer that revealed his monstrous lack of spirit and faith.
It appears that the author is saying that the army will use violence against the Jews in Gaza - not the other way around.
ReplyDeleteI am elated to hear this wonderful news that we won! Let's have a celebration!
ReplyDeleteThat's right we won!
And the Germans won WWII!
And the Americans won the Vietnamn war!
And the whites won against the ANC!
And the Confederacy won the American Civil War!
And the Tsar won the Bolshevik revolution!
YIIPPEEE YAHOOO!!!
WE WON BUT THE REASON IT LOOKS LIKE WE LOST IS BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEE IT WITH OUR FLEISHIGER EYES!
OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE WE WON!!!
(sarcasm now turned off)
are these people for real? Is this any way to run a protest movement? Who in their right mind will be convinced by such silliness!
To Aussie echo
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But how does the author now what violence the army will use.
My feeling is the army will use the minimum force possible, and violence probably some stupid settlers??
after 2 months criticism, still no logical reason emerging, except that the majority at the rally were teenagers covered in Orange. So what if the kids had fun? Have you forgot you were young once? Despite the rumours, they were disciplined, watched the videos quietly and learned a lot. They said tehillim too!
ReplyDeleteOur opposition is dreaming - you should see Israel - every second car has an orange ribbon! The place is covered in orange, kids T-shirts, caps, face paint, even icy poles in orange flavour.
But you're still not convinced. OK, I give in. Now YOU can organise an "orange free" rally, anyone with orange is banned and will be disengaged! Will you have guts to try it? Will you get a minyan?
Jokes aside, 2 weeks left till the expulsion! Any shul noticeboard asked you to say Tehillim? NO. Any communal gathering planned? NOTHING. Anyone give a damm?
What was PURIM and CHANNUKA all about? Wasn't the odds against us? Wasn't there a miracle change of events? Where are the Maccabees? Where the heck is Mordechai and Ester?
Never mind Mordecai & Ester, where is Moshiach?
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ReplyDeleteJust look at the haaretz daily newspaper reports of IDf training evacuation in the desert and the announcement of IDf we will use live amunitation on trouble makers what ever that means
It's nice to know we have such great poskimin Melbourne like Rabbi Risenberg, Rabbi Oliver Rabbi Ash etc. you can give a psak for soldiers not to obey orders.
ReplyDeleteWhere are Rabbi Faitel Levin,Rabbi Gutnick and the non chabad Rabbis?